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Why U.S. Marines Still Driving Humvees?

Why U.S. Marines Still Driving Humvees?



a Humvee has never been a popular vehicle among Marines but these days Humvees are more vulnerable than ever a Humvee is no match for the latest rocket-propelled grenades anti-tank guided missiles and sophisticated improvised explosive devices than insurgent groups like the Islamic state and the Taliban are now fielding even with additional armored Humvees our underpowered white and low to the ground it is an easy target it's just a god-awful vehicle said former gunnery sergeant Matthew Martin a former special operator who left the Marine Corps in 2014 it was of that platform that had some armor slapped onto it and was asked to do too much watch how the Korg's will ultimately replace its fleet of 17,000 from these remains unclear facing budget cuts the Marine Corps in 2015 canceled its program to upgrade 6700 of its Humvees the Cork's plans to start replacing the Humvees with a joint light tactical vehicle a faster and better armored truck with a v-shaped hull to deflect blasts from billow but the first of those jl TVs won't begin to arrive until 2019 even then they will come slowly the first batch will include 69 new vehicles to Camp Lejeune North Carolina the Marine Corps will continue to use Humvees for many many years Marine Lieutenant General Robert Walsh told lawmakers this summer on combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan Marines have mostly stopped using Humvees outside the wire but in the current vehicle fleet the options are limited mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles the MRAPs and other all variants are too heavy to use in rough terrain without a Humvee replacement the Marine Corps would have to use whatever vehicles it has now if another war broke out Martin when asked what his chances of surviving would be if he had to go to war tonight in a Humvee he said I'd want to talk my wife and Jesus and not particularly in that order concerns about the Marines tactical vehicles fleets have intensified during the past several years anti-american militant groups have far more firepower than they did a decade ago Isis fighters in Iraq and Syria have deployed russian-made kornet anti-tank missiles which can destroy him one abrams tanks a Humvee is just not going to be able to take the blast of an anti-tank guided missile said retired marine lieutenant colonel Dakota wood a military expert with the Heritage Foundation think tank in Washington meanwhile the specter of a full-scale war is looming larger on the horizon Lieutenant General Robert ed Erland commanding general of North carolina-based two Marine Expeditionary Force recently said his force of more than 25,000 Marines should be ready to fight the Russians the NEF command element will have to be ready to support a war fighting effort in Europe hedalin– told attendees in a defense industry conference in October the threat of war with China is also taking on new urgency in October one senior Pentagon official told Military Times that the Chinese Air Force is practicing attacks on Guam in tensions with North Korea this year have fueled fears that Marines in the Pacific could be summoned defied a grueling conventional battle on the Korean Peninsula those conventional opponents of cannons and rocket launchers that can shower US vehicles with submunitions said John Gurdon IV a military expert with the RAND Corporation Marine Humvees would be somewhere between very vulnerable and incredibly vulnerable in a conventional fight Gordon told Marine Corps Times a spokesman for marine commandant General Robert Miller said the Marine Corps cannot wait until it has thousands of new jl TVs if another war breaks out we have to fight with the gear we have not the stuff we plan to get now our spokesman Lieutenant Col Arab dent told Marine Corps times our potential adversaries get a vote – our job is to fight and win and with what we have yes we would prefer to have our full complement of the more survivable JL TVs right now but that's not the reality there is an inherent tension in Marine Corps modernization efforts between investing in existing and future technologies he said that tension is not made easier with a bezanika acquisition process while under budget controls in multiple continuing resolutions dense said fielding the JLTV has been delayed because after the army awarded a massive contract to Oshkosh to build the vehicles its rival Lockheed Martin protested and took the matter to federal court before ultimately dropping its lawsuit the Marine Corps eventually plans to buy about nine thousand JL TVs to replace about half of the Corp 17,000 Humvees said Kurt Koch combat vehicle capabilities integration officer at combat development and integration the Marines will only keep the best Humvees and replace the rest with JL TVs cost said in a statement to Marine Corps times the first 5,500 JL TVs will replace the highest-risk portion of the Humvee fleet the next 3,500 vehicles will go to active ground combat element units into marine air-ground Task Forces nevertheless both Humvees and JL TVs will be part of the Marine Corps fleet of light vehicles through 2030 he said with the JLTV the Marine Corps will finally have a light vehicle that provides Marines with the protection offered by an M ATV but is light enough drive off-road and to be transported by marine ch-53e Super Stallion and army ch-47 chinook helicopters JLTV is also take up the same amount of space as Humvees on ships and landing craft in the long run the Marine Corps will need thousands of additional vehicles and they may end up looking beyond the JLTV for something lighter and more actual walsh told lawmakers could there be some other type of lighter truck that does not have the same protection requirements that of jltv would have because not all our vehicles may be operating in a highly contested threat environment Walsh said for now some of Humvees still undergo depots level maintenance said in manual pacheco spokesman for PEO Land Systems Marine Corps Pacheco noted that the Humvees were designed and built in the 1980s before improvised explosive devices fundamentally changed the requirements for ground vehicles keep in mind that the hmm wvs have served both the marine corps and the army well for several decades and when they were first introduced into service we were not dealing with the IE d threat he said it's also important to note that the Marine Corps and the army are in the process of fielding the JLTV in order to fill the survivability gap that was created by the threat of the IEDs finally the JLTV is a purpose-built vehicle meaning you can't call up GM or Ford and ask them for 50 K it takes a few years to go through the acquisition process yet many Humvees continue to deteriorate Staff Sergeant Matthew Caruso a motor transportation chief at Camp Pendleton California said years of use have taken their toll on Humvees which are slowly getting worse and worse when Caruso deployed to Iraq in 2007 he constantly worried that his unit's Humvees would roll over a powerful pressure plate roadside bomb that would open up a Humvee like a tuna can he said by the time Caruso deployed to Afghanistan in 2010 Humvees were not allowed to be driven outside the wire he said it's a necessary piece of equipment for use in garrison caruso said but in combat operations I think it's time for the Humvee to go away the future of the Cork's vehicle fleet hinges a lot on Congress in the money it provides to the Marine Corps senator Roger wicker armed is calling for the Marine Corps in Congress to accelerate the purchase of JLTV Zwicker is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services seapower subcommittee for too long many Marine Corps modernization programs have been hampered by drawn-out development timelines complicating efforts to replace aging and inadequate systems wicker sent in a statement to Marine Corps times a Marines needing increased protection and mobility offered by the joint light Tactical Vehicle the Marine Corps needs to develop these vehicles and get them to the field as quickly as possible wicker said Congress and the courts should continue to work together to ensure that our brave young men and women have the very best equipment available to them we owe him that the JL TV's may have the same issues as Humvees against conventional opponents because both vehicles do not have the armor to protect against weapons used by conventional militaries you should not put JL TVs in Humvees in areas where they are going to be frequently exposed to enemy direct fire Gordon said that's the business of armored vehicles just like the army the best protective vehicle the Marine Corps has is the Abrams tank so you're going to have to employ those in these high threat areas particularly if you are going against an opponent with a PCS armored personnel carriers with autocannon and main battle tanks with guns of 100 millimeters or larger


Reader Comments

  1. Anyone one on a congressional committee that controls the military budget should be a veteran, or at least made to serve in combat for one year. Then, if they survive, they can return to Congress.

  2. Why precisely must the fucking US create yet another world war? The US tries to maintain a world fiscal hegemony by violence and has since WW1… It has to be stopped doing this, it is ridiculous, the likelihood of Thermonuclear war is just too high for the US to play gunslingers again. Idiot country.

  3. Why does all the robot voice videos always put a question mark at the end of the title, or rather:

    Why does all the robot voice videos always puts a question mark at the end of the title?

  4. The reality is the bigger they are the bigger target they are, lighter viechles and faster viechles have their advantages.

  5. They will have one of the exact same problems with the new vehicle as with the Humvee…weight and size. Too big to easily transport by helicopter.

  6. Tell you why… first we get army hand me town's, because we have shit for a budget, Marines are expected to go to war and do with 'what we got and make do…… all these anti American knee taking NFL players get millions to disrespect our real heroes, but the military goes to war with shit grar.

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