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Petraeus: Trump meeting Taliban at Camp David would be ‘troubling’

Petraeus: Trump meeting Taliban at Camp David would be ‘troubling’


NEGOTIATING WITH THE TERRORISTS WHO ENABLED AL QAEDA ON SEPTEMBER 11TH. TONIGHT, THE INSIDE STORY FROM ONE OF THOSE MEN, GENERAL DAVID PRETORIUS, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR WHO RAN U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND AND — I SPOKE TO THE GENERAL, WHO OVERSAW THE SUCCESSFUL SURGE IN IRAQ, AND THE SURGE IN AFGHANISTAN, ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DECISION TO WALK AWAY.>>LOOK, A NUMBER OF US, AS WAS NOTED, EXPRESSED RESERVATIONS. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE RESERVATIONS ELSEWHERE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND IN UNIFORM. THE TALIBAN CERTAINLY HADN’T SLOWED DOWN THE VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER. VERY GREAT RESERVATIONS ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO, WHICH IS TO KEEP AL QAEDA AND NOW THE ISLAMIC STATE FROM ESTABLISHING A SANCTUARY IN AFGHANISTAN AGAIN AS THEY HAD A SANCTUARY, WHEN THE TALIBAN RUN THE COUNTRY WHEN THE ATTACKS FOR 9/11 WERE PLANNED IN AN AFGHANISTAN SANCTUARY.>>Bret: SO THERE WAS A PLAN — THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO — WANTS TO GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, HE’S MADE THAT CLEAR. HE HAS ALSO SAID THAT HE WANTS TO SPEND A LOT LESS MONEY ON THE EFFORT IN AFGHANISTAN. AND IT LOOKS LIKE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, THE PLANET WAS UNDERTAKEN WAS TO TRY TO MAKE THE TALIBAN SOMEWHAT OF AN ALLY IN FENDING OFF THESE 20 DIFFERENT TERRORIST GROUPS THAT ARE ACTIVE IN THE REGION AND THERE WAS SOME DETERMINATION THAT THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH THAT. HOWEVER, THEY CONSIDER THE CURRENT AFGHAN GOVERNMENT TO BE COMPLETELY — TO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO COURT ABILITY WITH THEM. SO IT’S HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WAS ALL GOING TO WORK. IT SEEMS LIKE A REAL STRETCH.>>AGAIN, THERE WERE A LOT OF REASONS FOR CAUTION. KEEP IN MIND THEY REFUSED TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE, EVEN AS WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THEM IN GOOD FAITH. THEY HAVE REFUSED TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE WITH THE ACTUAL DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT WITH ELECTIONS COMING UP, WHICH THEY ALSO DID NOT WANT TO SEE. SO REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD HONOR THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED OVER THE LAST 18 OR SO YEARS.>>Bret: WHAT YOU MAKE WITH THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS, THERE’S ALWAYS DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON THESE THINGS WITHIN ADMINISTRATIONS BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS MORE ON THE SIDE OF CARRYING OUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WANTED TO ACHIEVE AND THAT JOHN BOLTON, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS PLAN AND SEEMS TO AGREE WITH YOU AND THE OTHERS, WHO I MENTIONED AT THE INTRODUCTION.>>AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW WHAT TOOK PLACE IN THESE FINAL MEETINGS WITH THE PRESIDENT DECIDED AGAINST HAVING THESE STOMACH THIS PARTICULAR MEETING WITH THE TELEGRAM.>>Martha: WOULD YOU EVER RECOMMEND AT CAMP DAVID MEETING, BY THE WAY?>>I THINK THE SYMBOLISM WOULD’VE BEEN A BIT TROUBLING. LESSER MEMBER THAT WAS WHERE THE DECISION WAS MADE TO INVADE DELAVAN IN THE WAKE OF 9/11 ATTACKS. SO I THINK AS YOU REFLECT ON THAT, CERTAINLY AGAIN, I THINK THE PRESIDENT VERY MUCH MADE THE RIGHT CALL.>>Martha: SO IN TERMS OF THE EXPENDITURE, THE COST, RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AND YOU ADDRESSED THIS IN THE EDITORIAL RECENTLY WHO FEEL THAT ALL OF THESE YEARS LATER AFTER 9/11, IT 18 YEARS OF FIGHTING THIS FIGHT, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, THAT WE NEED TO MOVE OUR FOCUS ELSEWHERE, THAT PERHAPS THE PLACES WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE IN AFRICA AND OTHER PARTS OF THE GLOBE.>>ASIA, CHINA.>>Martha: EXACTLY. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?>>I SAY THOSE ARE UNDERSTANDABLE DESIRES AND REASONS. WE HAD THOSE WHEN WE LEFT IRAQ AND IRAQ WAS A MUCH MORE STABLE SITUATION AT THAT TIME, SADLY UNDONE BY THE VERY PRIME MINISTER WE HELPED DURING THE SEARCH TO REDUCE THE VIOLENCE BY SOME 85 OR 90%. BUT THAT WAS QUESTIONABLE. THIS WOULD BE, I THINK, INDEFENSIBLE, AGAIN, UNLESS THERE ARE SOME REAL IRONCLAD VERIFICATION MEASURES IN THE AGREEMENT.>>Martha: HOW MANY TROOPS DO YOU BELIEVE — 8600 IS THE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. SO IF YOU WANTED TO LOWER THE PROFILE BUT STILL HAVE THE KIND OF PRESENCE THAT YOU THINK WILL BE EFFECTIVE THERE, WHAT IS NOT NUMBER IN YOUR MIND?>>WE ARE MOSTLY IN AND ADVISE AND ASSIST, TRAIN AND EQUIP ROLE. EVEN IF YOU KEEP WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS LESS THAN 15,000, THAT’S A VERY SMALL NUMBER IN THE OVERALL COST –>>Martha: LEAVE THEM THERE INDEFINITELY. HE WOULD LEAVE THAT NUMBER OR SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE INDEFINITELY?>>AGAIN, THE MISSION STILL MATTERS. THEY WENT FOR A REASON TO NATIONALITY ISLAMIC STATE WAS MOVED IN AS WELL WHICH WAS TRYING TO EXPLOIT THE SITUATION, CANNOT REESTABLISH THE SANCTUARY. WE KEPT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TROOPS ON KOREAN SOIL. THEY ARE NOT BEING SHOT AT AND THEY ARE NOT CASUALTIES.>>Martha: GENERAL MATTIS WAS POINTING THAT OUT.>>MANY MORE TENS OF THOUSANDS IN EUROPE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II. WE ARE THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE VALID MISSIONS AND THOSE MISSIONS ARE CONTINUING. WHAT I AM ARGUING FOR IS TURNING A SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINED COMMITMENT. THIS SHOULD BE ONE IN WHICH THE EXPENDITURE AND BLOOD AND TREASURE IS SOMETHING, HOWEVER TRAGIC EVERY LOSS CERTAINLY IS, IS SUFFICIENTLY REDUCED THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN SUSTAIN FOR GOOD PERIOD OF TIME. I’VE ALSO NOTICED THAT THE FIGHT AGAINST ISLAMIST EXTREMISTS IS A GENERATIONAL STRUGGLE, NOT THE FIGHT OF A FEW DECADES OR A FEW YEARS. AND YOU HAVE TO THEREFORE HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF A MISSION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE DETERMINATION — BY THE WAY, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE FORCES WE ARE FACING THERE, THE TALIBAN AND MANY OF THE OTHERS, CERTAINLY AREN’T GOING TO BACK DOWN IF THEY THINK THERE IS AN END DATE FOR THE UNITED STATES CONTRIBUTION.>>Martha: SO WOULD YOU SAY, BASED ON WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID TODAY, THAT IT’S YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT HE HAS CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT THIS — THAT NOW HE SEES THINGS MORE THE WAY THAT PERHAPS JOHN BOLTON SEES IT AND YOU SEE IT AND GENERAL JACK KEANE SEES IT?>>VERY HARD TO SAY BUT LET’S REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN HE PUT OUT HIS FIRST STATEMENT ON THEN-POLICY ON AFGHANISTAN, IT WAS CONDITIONS-BASED.>>Martha: WOULD YOU SAY THERE WAS A RUSH TO A DEAL THAT HE WANTED A MOMENT AFTER IT SEEMED LIKE THE TALIBAN SORT OF FIGURED OUT THAT HE WANTED TO HAVE A MOMENT LIKE THE ONES WE’VE SEEN AT CAMP DAVID IN THE PAST AND THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THAT AT ALL. YOU THINK THAT MOTIVATION IS JUSTIFIED?>>IS AN UNDERSTANDABLE DESIRE TO REDUCE OUR FORCES. AND AGAIN, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. THE QUESTION IS HOW FAR CAN YOU REDUCE WITHOUT REALLY PUTTING VULNERABILITIES INTO THE SITUATION FROM WHICH THERE WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT RECOVERY. AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED IN IRAQ WHEN WE LEFT? THE COUNTRY WENT BACK TO SUNY-SHE OF VIOLENCE. ISIS WAS ABLE TO REESTABLISH ITSELF GOING TO SYRIA, COMING BACK IN AND WE ENDED UP PUTTING MANY MORE TROOPS BACK IN THERE THAT OTHERWISE –>>Martha: ENDED UP WITH AN ISIS CALIPHATE. IF YOU SAID IN YOUR PIECE YOU THINK THIS WOULD BE EVEN WORSE. MAYBE AFGHANISTAN WOULD HAVE A WORSE OUTCOME THAN WHAT WE SAW WITH ISIS.>>AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IRAQ WAS MUCH MORE STABLE. THE VIOLENCE WAS DOWN AND CONTINUE TO GO DOWN IN THE THREE YEARS AFTER THE SURGE, SO THAT WAS VERY ARGUABLE. THIS I THINK IS MUCH LESS SO.>>Martha: BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOU SAID YOU DON’T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS BUT YOU’VE BEEN ON THE CIRCLE OF PEOPLE. IF YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING DIRECTLY TO HIM WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?>>I GUESS — I SAY THIS SLIGHTLY TONGUE-IN-CHEEK. BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL OF DECLARING VICTORY, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND CENTRAL ASIA. I THINK I MIGHT ALSO OFFER THERE ARE NO PURELY MILITARY SOLUTIONS TO BE SURE FOR THE ISSUE THAT WE SEE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND CENTRAL ASIA. THERE ARE ALSO NO PURELY DIFFERENT MEDIC SOLUTIONS. ULTIMATELY THESE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE CIVIL MILITARY CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE IN TERMS OF THE COST IN TERMS OF BLOOD AND TREASURE AND WE DO INDEED HAVE TO DO IT RECOGNIZING THAT THE OVERALL CONTEXT IS ONE IN WHICH THE RISE OF CHINA AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ASIA PACIFIC IS MUCH GREATER INDEED THAN IT


Reader Comments

  1. Petraeus was a Hillary supporter, a deep state military industrial complex general who has been neutralized by Trump. No longer dangerous to our society, thanks to Trump.

  2. Martha McCallum has really crossed the bridge over to the Darkside. Every interview I see her do she comes across as being very anti-Trump and asking leading questions or putting words in her guests mouth. I don’t like watching her anymore

  3. under conventional circumstances, perhaps, to constricted criteria of concern, not pledged priority. in any event the state department relationship with obama era intel agency 'expertise' and the intern impeached senate 'service' is more than troubling and relies on unacceptable tactics of anti constitutional calculation. including the cover ups.

  4. How many dead American Soldiers is enough for these idiots. Pull the troops and unleash a butt load of MOAB's. You hit them hard enough and they will be scared for decades,, i.e. ask Japan!

  5. This is worse than the Vietnam War. The first president that gets all of the troops out of Russian and Iranian influenced lands will earn my respect.

  6. Ike Eisenhower would nuke Afghanistan, or Iran. Shows strength, shows willingness to defend resources, and to check evil.

  7. Bring all the troops home immediately. You cannot save that country. The USA and others have tried valiantly but they are bestial nation . Don't accept a single refugee in as you will regret it.

  8. Hey FOXCON, if all you’re going to do is repetitively attack Trump, just hire that “can you hear me now” Verizon guy for brainwashing?

  9. Trump meeting everyone he’s ever met turned out to be “troubling”. Putin owns him and Kim Jong Un plays him like a fool.

  10. Interviewing a retired general who has a dubious record at best isn’t the best way to go. His award for a bronze star with valor mentions no actual combat involvement to go along with it, but he had rank and needed an award to go with it. He gave away TS/SCI clearance classified information and received a slap on the wrist for it. And he formed a gun control group just for good measure. I guess that he didn’t understand a word of the oath that he took to defend the US Constitution. General Betrayus, maybe he was the only one that Fox News could get to discuss current affairs, even though he’s been retired for a number of years.

    What a fail!

  11. We as a country should address mental illness step one is to get that. Bigoted lunatic out of the Oval Office !…dillion roof…..esh

  12. Only the timid need be troubled, General. For, the courageous shall prevail, righteous. Who, then, now, be illiterate? Surely, you read many books. Yet, you neglect to read the very book from which your language came? Curious, your bravado, having no mastery of word. Nor, recognizing the power, thereof. I rebuke thee, gentlemen. The insolence is not warranted. And, the harassment is resented. Besides, you are, indeed, surrounded, and outnumbered, and your arms are inferior

  13. I'm old enough to remember regan hosting them in the oval office and then bush sr had them back a few years later…fake news from a treasonous slime ball.

  14. What’s up with FOX hiring all these losers as commentators?This dumb ‘uck let his little head do the thinking for him and got himself in a world of hurt.

  15. Look @ this leaking traitor getting air time on Faux Snooze……Somethings never change @ faux….They love a good War monger. ……Bring our troops home…protect our borders from illegal DeMonRat invaders !!!!!!!

  16. So how many more brave Men must die in this pointless war? What do we even get out of this war Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years we have no business in the Middle East at all bring all of our troops home.

  17. On one hand, most of the people say "no more unending wars, lets get out of Afghanistan" etc. But on the other hand, you people and MSM media demonize China, Russia, Venezuela etc, and softly get the Public to manufacture consent to invade those countries and start new wars with them. End one war but then start new wars with other countries – That way these wasteful wars will never end.. 😞

  18. They didn't report about the capture of a dozen ISIS that was released because they had a deal with the military and pay them the 50 tons of gold that they stole. That's the corruption in the military that they didn't know.

  19. Petraeus is a turncoat idiot … Cheated on his wife .. Got caught with criminal activity and the Obama administration let him off IF he would fight for the leftist fascist globalists.

    Ask yourself what Petraeus said when Obama gave over 400 million dollars in cash to Iran, the world's most notorious sponsor of terrorism and access to over 27 billion dollars to use to fund more terrorism.

    NOTHING. In fact , when Obama abandoned Iraq to ISIS, what did Petraeus say? NOTHING. Eff Petraeus and the camel he is riding every night.

  20. Tell us Mr Petraeus… what have you done that's worked in Afghanistan??? Please write any comments here _________ did I leave enough space for you?

  21. This guy has been on my pupu platter list for so long, it's hard to say he knows anything about that which he discusses. Take for example his leaving out the biggest piece of the negotiations, which still have yet to be discussed at all in the Mid East and Central Asia in open fora. Pass.

  22. Trump has again shifted the discussion from what America is doign wrong to what is wrong with America's enemies. Democats don't like to talk about islamic terrorism. Trump does.

  23. This is a age old TRIBIL WAR FIR POWER! All these ppl disrespect everyone whom disagrees with what there demand is. Now Iran will have a nuclear bomb shortly! Do you really think these ppl will not stock pile weapons then when they can point one weapon towards all their infidel non believers countries! They will trigger a nuclear wholesale war!

  24. Aren't you glad our last real president killed Bin Laden before he and Trump had the chance to become good buddies? I know I am.

  25. Trump enables murderers. Remember Trump gave a free pass to Saudi prince who killed American resident. Trump is going to hell for enabling MURDERERS!!!!!!!!

  26. Pe-TRAITOR-eus= a PUPPET DEEP STATE POC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch Girl, He'll Try & Get in Your Pants Trading Secrets For a POA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JMHO

  27. I believe the President knew this evil rank would not honestly negotiate peace. They showed their true selves so we the people would see before the left had the opportunity to gripe that President Trump wasn't trying to broker peace in the Middle East. Cards overplayed … again

  28. Funny how you Trump people don’t like Petraeus, he’s almost exactly like Trump! They both cheated on their wives, they’re both good at leaking, The only difference is Trump never served his country. 😂🤣

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