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Make that Milsurp shoot! – Part 1 Paper Patching

Make that Milsurp shoot! – Part 1 Paper Patching



I'm eating a lot of questions from colleagues and friends of mine fellow shooters about how to make your mill surpri shoot it's not that hard these old wartime guys we're usually shot with Full Metal Jacket ball type ammo so if they can take these pressures going you know 2 23 24 100 feet per second casting of a slug for your barrel using full grain lead not gonna be any problem at all these rifles pretty accurate the biggest thing is you've got to make sure that the bullet you're shooting out of it or your lead slug you're shooting out of it matches the diameter of the bore otherwise you'll get what's called gas cutting now gas cutting is when you'll have gas SEPA round the sides melt the bullet and deposit on the inside of your barrel very bad for accuracy and if you keep shooting it you can have issues because pressures go up we use cast bullets because number one they're cheap especially in the economic environment we find ourselves of today number two it's an unlimited supply of bullets if you can cast your own bullets you will never be without rounds because the brass you buy brass ones and if you load them the cast bullet velocities and by that we're talking between a thousand to two thousand feet per second it's a lot cheaper it's a lot lot less wear and tear on the rifle itself because the lead is certainly softer than jacketed bullets you can shoot many thousands more rounds of lead than you can jacketed bullets so and plus if you're just like most most of us shooters we like to make our own stuff we like making our own bullets loading our own weapons you cannot beat that that's what makes our country great so it makes America great is the independence that we can do it ourselves I mean if during this last crisis if everyone is stockpile everyone had their own primers and enough powder all you needs a little bit of powder to shoot through these guns you could be shooting through this whole crisis is manufactured crisis when without stopping that's what we did and a lot of people I know did so what we're gonna do today is we're gonna show you how to fit a the slug to the gun that way you can get not just plinking but pretty accurate shooting out to 100 200 300 yards it's lots of fun and it's cheap that I mentioned it was cheap yes it is cheap and economical that is one of the main reasons I cast and a lot of people I know cast because it's cheap and you will not get in any letting if you follow the tips that we're gonna show you in this series so first thing anytime you're working with a rifle you want to make sure this rifle is empty that's right and there it is this is my 1917 and it is empty my Eddystone 1917 very heavy gun but it's very accurate this is a 5 groove gun that means that there are 5 cuts in the barrel rifled all the way up now that makes it impossible to measure with your calipers with your dial calipers actually so what we do is we slug it and we just look and we get an estimate that's what I always do and we always cast above what the grooves are on here that way you get full seated full when you shoot the bore is full with the with the lead and nothing you don't get any gas cutting like I was talking about before nothing gets around the base of the bullet now this bullet this is ally this is the c3 12 185 it's a 0.3 1/2 inch bullet this is designed actually for your end fields for your a little bit bigger most in the Gaunt's this rifle like I said 1917 and the 1903 s our 308 caliber this slug we can size it down series and we can get it to shoot out of these guns but for now I'm using this as our slug so what I'm gonna do is I've got some wax here and I think this is the best stuff to get on the bullet on the slug so you can get it through the barrel because you want path you want it to be very slippery and the wax is awesome stuff for that there we go now whenever you you start off you've got your brass mallet I'm sure you everyone has one of these if not now what we're doing is as we're starting you're gonna drive the slug into the barrel do not worry about the pressure you're exerting putting this down because when you shoot the pressures are many times greater than what we're doing here now you're gonna see we'll have a little bit of a lip forming here I got some lette in my hand here and that's good that's what you want I follow it up with a punch appropriately-sized punch to draw the rest of it down into the barrel what you'll see and of course brass punch you'll see the loop ring coming out here we go that it's in there correctly you'll see this time got stuck in the barrel there we go we wring a leg good let put that for the pot let me melt it back down and make some more bullets with it now that the slug is in the bore we're just gonna keep that we wanted to fill out you want it to fill up those lands and grooves that we talked about earlier now we're driving it in now we're gonna switch to our driving round or brass driving right of course now as you're driving this down you want to make sure that you've got something in place on the bottom I'm going to put a pieces of leather that'll prevent the the slug from hitting the ground otherwise it deforms and kind of misses up the purpose of doing this so I just stick some leather in there we keep pounding along I might want to pick up and turn the rod or whatever you're using you can also use hardwood dowel or sections of hardwood down what people use hardwood dowel works very well also for this and what happens is the dowels you cut them into sections of about four to five inches and you just hammer on that you'll have a whole stack of loose ones in there what this will happen is this helps you prevent any Mari of your crown all right down here we'll get our second set and you'll see as we start getting down toward the bottom toward the end for the chamber and the throat it'll start being very it'll start getting easier if you let's start getting close to the throw yeah we are almost to the throat here we are now we'll remove the slug that lost there we go the piece of leather that we put down here to catch just caught our slug yep and here it is you're a chamber cast well actually I'm your chamber your board cast and you'll see you've got five grooves and lands on here you see


Reader Comments

  1. So how much does the gun weigh? I use a long oak dowel for bore slugging, so what is the benefit of cutting the dowels into sections instead of just one piece? Do you have any bullet casting videos?

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  3. Can you please tell me what type, manufacturer of lube that is you have in the jar. I would like to buy some. if you have vendor for that I would like to know. Thanks!

  4. You said many things that are very true. Casting is in my humble opinion, very fun, self rewarding, economical, etc. I have friends that just don't get it. They don't understand my passion for casting and that's fine with me. Those of you thinking of getting into casting, be warned…it's very addictive! Thanks for the great video/s, AGW.

  5. I would have used a plastic-faced hammer when forcing the slug flush with the barrel, but I guess that a brass hammer is a safe choice if it's all you have on hand.

  6. at the end of the vid you say can you see the lands?….no, I can't see it…no close up, and vid justs stops…not the egg-spurt advice I am looking for

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