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Go To College or Join The Military?

Go To College or Join The Military?


Look, I’m not here to tell you that one decision
may be good for everybody. For instance, for some, college is good. You know, it works for them, so for some,
it’s military, intern, backpacking and traveling, but today, I’m going to make a case to you
on why this may be an option. I’m going to explain to three different audiences. One is a 13, 14-year-old kid who doesn’t really
know what they want to do. They’ve always thought, “Maybe military.” I’m going to give you some points on why you’re
going to have a lot of benefits of joining military. The other one’s going to be an 18-year-old
kid now, becoming an adult. You’re graduating high school. You already did. You’re looking at possibly military, and it’s
the parent. Some of the parents are worried about their
kids joining the military. I’ll make the case to all three, and then,
you make the decision at the end what you want to do because for me, I will never forget. I was 14 years old the first time I thought
about military because a guy named [Jesus Guerrera 00:00:50] came up to me in Glendale. He said, “Hey, you want to consider joining
the military?” I got some options. I laughed at him. I said, “I’ll never join the army.” Four years later, I went to him, and he recruited
me. You never know the story, but I hope this
makes an impact on the way you look at military. Okay, so by the way, if you haven’t yet subscribed
to the channel, please do so. If you got any comments, thoughts, questions
throughout the entire episode, comment on the bottom. Number one reason why I think joining the
military will give you benefits that you will not have in college is classroom-style teaching
versus real life. In college, it’s a lot of classroom. Somebody talks from up there, and you sit
down. You take notes. You’re learning to your best abilities, but
we know the best way we learn is hands-on. It’s somebody working there with me. It’s somebody showing me, “Here’s how you
do it. Look how I do it, and then, you do it. Look how I do it. Then, you do it.” My kids go to a private school. Yesterday, we had a parent … What do you
call this? A parent-teacher conference type of thing. I went to it last night. One of the things they believe in, which is
the reason why I like this school is they believe kids learn more by playing, by building,
by doing instead of lecturing. I think college, sometimes, it’s way too much
lecturing. There isn’t somebody getting there and showing
to them how to do it. Now, if there is a college you’re going to
that does do that, more power to them, but most colleges, it’s more classroom style. Number two, problem solving on the go. I don’t know if you learn problem solving
on the go in college. I do know you’re going to learn it in the
military all the time. I mean I can’t tell you how many times we’d
be in the back 40 or we’re working in the fields. Something would come up, and you don’t have
a long time to be thinking about it. You got to figure out a way to solve it right
there. “Hey, [John 00:02:34], what are we going to
do?” “Let’s do this.” “Okay, great. Give me that. Give me. Let’s grab this.” You have to go on the go, so it created your
brain to be able to constantly think about problem solving on the go. By the way, one of the things that you’ll
realize value to, and I talk about one subject mainly, which is entrepreneurship. Everything is around entrepreneurship. You will see a lot of these things that you
learn in the military will help somebody who wants to one day run a business. Number three, teamwork. They don’t teach you teamwork in college. Honestly, think about it. They do not teach you teamwork in college. Maybe a couple group projects you do, but
there’s not really emphasis on teamwork. Do you realize, I would tell you everything
we did in the military was all teamwork. Everything we did from bootcamp to AIT to
being at the 101st Airborne Division Air Assault to breakfast, to running, to exercising to
working to projects. Everything was teamwork. Everything was you have a buddy. Everything was you have somebody. You got to have their back to have your back. Everything they taught you was about teamwork. One of the things I will tell you that’s the
toughest things any CEO, leader, parent, coach, the toughest thing anyone struggles with is
to create an environment where everybody is working together as a team. I’ve been running a business for a long time. I’m going to tell you something here. One of the things I miss from the military
when I got out was the comradery of how it was to build a team. I told myself, whatever I do, wherever I work,
I’m always going to bring that tool. When I worked at Bally’s, it was absolute
teamwork. When we kicked every other gym’s butt, it
was teamwork. When I went into sales, it was teamwork. When I was running a company, it was teamwork. When it’s running a family, team. Everything to me is stemmed from teamwork. College is too much about you, you, you, you,
you. Military was about team. We can do something big together. Number four, diversity. I’m from Iran, okay? I joined the military, and I go to a bootcamp. I’m in South Carolina, and there’s people
there from South Dakota, North Dakota, Mississippi. You got Arkansas. You got people from Oklahoma, people from
Montana. They have never met a Middle-Eastern before,
right? I didn’t know anybody from New York or Miami
or Chicago or all these other places. You hang out together, and you learn about
different diversity, and you learn about cultures. You learn about certain communities. You learn about what’s important to them,
and what’s important to … You learn so much about diversity that, yes, you may pick up
in college because may make the case and say, “Well, in college, people go to college from
all across the country as well.” In many cases, from all over the world. I get it, but you’re in the classroom. You don’t have to do anything with them. You’re just in a classroom. In the military, you have to work with them. You have to get to know them because it’s
teamwork. I have to get to know who you are because
I’m going to work on this project with you for three weeks. I have to know you. I don’t have to know you in college. I may party with you, but I don’t have to
know you. We’re just in a classroom together. Number five, independence. Smallest listing, watch this. The smallest thing is you have to wash your
own clothes. You have to iron your clothes. You have to learn about starch and crease
and shining your shoes and making sure your room is clean, right? You got to mop the floor. When’s the last time a teenager mopped the
floor seven days a week? You got to learn how to clean. You’ll learn a lot of the independent stuff
that you have to make decisions on your own. You got to make decisions. It’s on you now. There is no more hiding behind mommy and daddy. Some of the parents that are afraid of having
their kids join the military at the same like, “I want my kids to also be independent.” Yes, but you know? A little bit of this that makes a lot of sense,
right? You learn a lot about those. By the way, sometimes, a teenager was like,
“Get off my back. Let me make my own decisions a little bit
for myself.” The military may not be a bad option for you. Number six, mental and emotional toughness. Honestly, if you ask me, I was asking [Jessica
00:06:42] earlier. I said, “What is the opposite of a softie?” You know, somebody who is a softie. I see a lot of people that are soft. I see a lot of people that are too sensitive. I see a lot of people that are too emotional. I see a lot of people that are not too stable. I just see a lot of that. By the way, I’m not just talking about millennials,
Gen X’s. This is a young generation thing, not at all. I was a softie. Completely in high school, I was a softie. The military toughened me up mentally and
emotionally. I learned what it is to be mentally tough. I learned what it is to be emotionally tough. By the way, there’s a part of it that you
may go into bootcamp and realize you can’t hack it, and you get out. There’s a part of you when you go in, and
you realize you can do a lot more than you thought you could do. By the way, in the business world, if you
are not mentally and emotionally tough, the business world definitely ain’t for you. This could be a good wake-up call into one
day running your own business. I got a message yesterday. What was it? Guy on Snapchat. What was he, marines? He’s in marines. He watches every single Valuetainment video. He says, “I’m in the marines right now.” He shows me his entire barracks. He says, “I watch every single Valuetainment
video because I cannot wait to get out of the marines so I can become an entrepreneur.” Well, good for him, because he’s also got
the mental and the emotional toughness from being in the marines. Number seven, hands-on leadership. Let me tell you about hands-on leadership. Oh my gosh. Someone’s working with you constantly. I talked about it briefly about real life
style, but you have somebody’s always hands-on with you. There’s a certain level of accountability. I would put seven and eight together. This is why I have it like this. Number eight, hands-on leadership demands
discipline. You got to be disciplined. Let me explain. First time I went to college, and I went into
my classroom. It was me and this other guy named [Armand
00:08:31]. By the way, he runs a business that does 12
million dollars a year, very successful guy. We got our class, and the professor’s name
is [Van Dam 00:08:38], okay? What a great name, by the way, English teacher,
Van Dam. We go into this class, and he says, “Hey,
I just want you guys to know this. You’re officially adults. If you don’t want to be in my classroom, you
don’t have to be in my classroom. There are no roll calls to all the freshmen
here. You don’t have to” … He went through this
whole thing. I looked at him, and I’m like, “You got to
be kidding me. These guys are serious. I thought they were kidding that you don’t
have to be in a classroom.” No, you don’t have to be in a classroom. I said, “Bro, let’s get out of here.” We got up. We went outside. We sat in front of the cafeteria. We played spades every single day. We never went to Mr. Van Dam’s classroom. A girl there would tell us what the homework
was. We would do our best, and that was it, but
we went to play spades. We would play spades because there is no accountability. That teacher doesn’t care if you come to the
classroom or not. In a military, you have to come to the classroom. I mean what do you mean you’re not coming
to training? You’re going to get an Article 15. You have certain responsibilities and accountability,
which in some ways, this teaches that to become a habit because you always show up. Sometimes, this game of life is just about
showing up. Sometimes, college tells you, you don’t have
to show up if you don’t want to show up. Military shows you, you got to show up. Number nine, seeing the world. You’re going to travel and see the world. I can tell you for myself, when people ask
me questions, and they say about how much fun I had, man, I had a lot of fun in the
army. I mean really. I had a lot of fun in the army. I am always grateful that Instagram wasn’t
around when I was in the army. You have no idea how grateful I am that Instagram
came out after my partying days because it would be embarrassing. Some of the short clips and pictures you would
see about my army days on how hard we partied in the army when we saw the world. You’re going to see the world. You’re going to have a good time. Number 10, respect. You’ll learn respect for elders. You’ll learn respect for the game. You’ll learn respect. It teaches respect for the opponent. It teaches respect for the enemy. It teaches respect for your competition because
you always have to be prepared if an enemy decides to attack you. There’s respect for a lot of different things,
right, that you’ll learn, but they teach you that in the military. Number 11, constantly being challenged. You’re always going to be pushed. I don’t care what it is. There isn’t a single minute that you’re not
being pushed. You’re always being challenged to improve. Number 12, you stay in shape. You want to be successful in life, you got
to have energy, enthusiasm. You got to have stamina. If you don’t have the energy, you don’t stay
in shape, you’re just not going to cut it in the world of business because you’re going
to last a long time. In the world of military, every day, you have
to exercise when you’re in the military. Number 13, lesser chances of doing drugs. Now, don’t get me wrong here. You’re going to see drugs. I saw a lot of drugs. One that I’m doing guard duty, and I’m going
to one of my guys’ rooms. He had a mountain of nose candy on his table. You know what nose candy is. It’s cocaine, right? He had a mountain of cocaine. I’m like … I don’t want to say his name. I said, “Brother, you cannot be doing all
this cocaine.” He says, “Well, a guy named [Rob 00:11:33]
gave it to me.” I even knew this other guy. I said, “I get it, but you can’t do it. You’re going to go to jail.” A month later, he gets caught. He goes to military prison. It’s not the way to do it. Everybody saw, if you do cocaine in the military,
you’re going to go to prison. You definitely don’t want to go in the military
prison, right? There’s a lot of accountability that if you
did any of that stuff, you lose it. You lose your rank. You lose everything. In college, if you smoke pot, do you lose
a class? Do you go from sophomore to a freshman? No. There is no accountability. No one cares if you do drugs. As a matter of fact, you know, a lot of people
do drugs in college. Military, if you do, there is consequences. You work your butt off to become an E-5 or
an E-6 or an E-4. You screw up. You’re going to go back down. That fear of losing that, people protect themselves
from not doing the drug part. Number 14, benefits. You got a lot of benefits. Listen. Benefits is one, healthcare. I’ll blow it right now. They don’t have the best benefits that they
take care with the VAs, but I’m going to tell you benefits on a different side. When I say benefits, this is what I mean. I got hired at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
at 21 years old when I got my series seven, and I became a broker, I got hired because
the guy who hired me, a man named [Dave Kurby 00:12:48] liked the fact that I had a military
background. That’s why he hired me. He saw my resume. He said, “Do you have any college experience?” I say, “A little bit. I went to Sta. Monica Community College and Glendale Community
College, but that’s all I got.” He says, “Do you have a four-year or two-year?” I don’t. It was me and another girl who graduated in
Berkeley. She did a four-year program in two and a half
years. Genius girl. He says, “But you were in the military, right? They teach you discipline and hard work in
the military.” “Yes.” “I like that. You have the job as well.” Both of us were hired. She was college. I was military. We both were hired. The benefits on the resume being in the military
helps you to do a lot of other things in your career. I like when I’m hiring somebody if they have
military background, I know their skin is thick. They’re not soft. They’re not weak. They’re willing to work hard they’re disciplined. They know what it is to work like a team. I know that, so I like that on resumes. I like working. Matter of fact, the top earners that I work
with, the best sales people in our company, he has military experience. He was in the marines for eight years. He did three tours in Afghanistan and all
these other places. He’s tough. He’s great at bringing everybody together. I like that part, right? I don’t have to call this person, not knowing
if he’s going to get sensitive, upset at me because he comes from that world. Then, you have college paid for. It’s crazy. If you go to college, you don’t necessarily
learn disciple, but if you go to military, you can go to college at the same time. There was a lot of guys that were in the unit
with me. You know, military endorses you to go to college. They want you to go to college. They don’t mind if you have classrooms that
night. There was a lot of guys that got their four-year
degrees when they were in there for four years as well at the same time, so you can get your
Bachelor’s when you’re in there. Get all these other benefits and still get
your college degree while you’re in the military. They’re going to give you scholarships for
that as well. Last but not the least is the obvious one. You’ve got to work hard. You will definitely work hard. I mean I can tell you, I never thought I could
work 36 hours straight until I did. You’re going to, without coffee, without anything,
just water. You’re going to work hard. You’re going to push that limit where you
hit. When you hit that limit, you know what you
start realizing afterwards? When you got to another company or wherever
you want to move up in a company, there’s one things you’re not afraid of. You are not afraid of out-working anybody
because nothing’s going to be more work than the work you did in the military. Nothing is. There’s not a single job you’ll ever do that
will be more work than the military. It’s just not going to be, not going to be,
so that will give you an edge as well in the military of learning how to work hard. These are 16 points. By the way, if somebody can come and do a
video in saying 16 reasons why you ought to join the college instead of military, they
can give their arguments. There probably is going to be some valid arguments
there as well, but I’m just telling you right now. I would say for every 20 that goes to college,
only a couple go to the military. There’s a lot of benefits of getting involved
in the military. If you have any questions, thoughts, comments,
comment on the bottom. If you haven’t yet subscribed to this channel,
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Reader Comments

  1. do you really like the millitary so much. i know you are patriotic but the american military has created more pain then relief in the 21. century

  2. Pat I have an idea at the end of every episode you can recommend a book.and on every Friday you can make a episode on any book you want nda you can even give the book to download in the link of the video

  3. Yo Pat. Love your videos been watching since the beginning of this year. One question though, what do you think about joining the military after college? Even if its only like 1 or 2 years? Thanks💪

  4. I'll be out of the military this Friday. I have learned so much and everything you mentioned is true. I have so much more discipline, determination, attention to detail and more because of the military. Thank you for posting this video. 👍

  5. 5.INDEPENDENCE, this one really hits close to home. my uncle was a military man, and I lived in his house for about five years when I was 15 years old. at first I hated my uncle because he was too strict, but now I owe most of my discipline to him, thanks to him I'm not late to any place, thanks to him, I keep everything neat and clean. I would have liked to go to the military, but the game of being military where I come from is the worst.

  6. Hey Pat! So im 16 and thinking about joining the Marines, but i also want to be successful before becoming an adult. Is it one or the other, or is there some way I can run an online business from the military?

  7. Hey Pat, I actually have a wierd question to make. I'm pretty lazy lack a lot of discipline but was still offered a position at the Canadian Military College. It will force me to be in the military and study engineering at the same time. I know you are an entrepreneur, but do you think this Is a good decision?

  8. hey pete i'm 18 years old and i just finished high school and want to be entrepreneur. should i study SME management in college please give me some advice and all the reader please share your opinion too. thank

  9. I disagree with Patrick.

    There are many things you can learn in the Military that are (non-unique to the Military). I will give you a better approach to both college and military.

    I made a mistake right after 9-11. I joined the Marines and while in boot-camp I realized things were not going as promised so long story short I got out. Thank God I was wise enough at 19 and missed the longest most stupid war ever waged by the US.

    But dont make my mistake, instead go to College and get a career that has both military and civilian uses. After college you can join any branch as an officer and believe me officer training is far superior than enlisted members; is like a community college 50 years ago vs. Stanford business school 2017. You will find yourself enriching both your career, your business/management skills and at the same time serving. PATRICK SHOULD COMMENT ON THIS!!!

    This is what I should have done but 9-11 patriotism clouded my judgement.

    Good Luck to all of you and SemperFi!!!

  10. HELP ME WHAT IS YOUR OPINION
    hello everyone.
    I have a question
    I am interested in a bisnes (i want to buy all dhelaize's from belgium (it's a store chain))
    But my dad thinks i would better not do that because the profit percentage is only 20%
    of wat you sell or something like that
    (he thinks it's too long for you to make real money (first buy the store and then the building and then you pay directly to 13miljon $ for 10-15 years) would you continue the bisnes or would you looking for something else with better margins.

    I do not mind working with those margins
    I wanna WORK FOR IT 🔥🔥🔥
    AND DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  11. Love you Pat. I'm 19 and you are like a father figure to me. I would love to meet you one day to tell you how much you have improved my life, I went from getting a 2.8 in high school and being average to getting straight As in college. Thanks 🙂

  12. I'm trying to convince my son to join the military. He's 17, athletic but has never been the "book and classroom learning type", but if you give him anything physical to do, like sports or learning with his hands, he's amazing. I know the military would make him the man God intended for him to be. Thank you for the video ! I just sent it to him.

  13. Perfect timing on this video Patrick!!! I've been deciding a lot you have no idea!! Thank you so much for this video!! You give the world best advice , appreciate you so much ✊🏽🤗

  14. Mr. Bet-David,

    As a Canadian, we don't have the same military culture as you do in the United States so I cannot pretend to understand the draw of enlisting. It is simply not something that many Canadians even consider pursuing.

    I understand that many people join the military because it is often the best financial choice for them. My question is, as a well off person, would you like your children to join the military in order for them to learn these skills that you are pointing out, or are there other opportunities to learn these essential strengths elsewhere?

  15. Here in Switzerland you have military draft for young men, compulsory, 4 month recruit school, then about 8 months duty as a soldier. I can totally agree with this video, one point that was missed is the networking part of it, you meet a lot of different miltary people, during the military and during civilian life that open up a lot of possibilities and opportunities.

    For a lot of young people it is a good experience to start their adulthood with the skills that are taught in the military and If you live in a country with free democracy, giving something back to your country is a good thing, apposed to taking everything for granted.

    Many thanks for the commitment to educating and all the hard work that goes into this channel.

  16. 2 comments. PBD how important is diversity to you?2) I find when the teacher says you don't have to come to class, that's really a lesson on personal accountability because most students who don't come to class are not going to do well in that class. So it's on them to do what they need to do in order to do well in the class.

  17. Thanks David, i was too mediocre when i was at school even i was the worst student at the school, but all changed when i served in Colombian Army, i won a Medal there and when i left i started winning in every single thing i have done after army

  18. Totally agree. I went to the military for year and half after high school, I hated it at first but it was good experience

  19. Thanks for the advice. I'm 29 currently in college getting my certification to become a medical assistant. I'm almost done but I have been considering joining the service after I complete school.

  20. @Valuetainment
    can you help me? I am a Junior in high school and I goofed off my 9th-grade year and 10th grade and now trying to get my GPA to 3.0. if I don't get to that goal what is the best way for me to go to college and get a degree in computer science. what should I do?

  21. I would LOVE to have been at the table when you were writing this to add more in-depth details to some of these points. Great video, glad you included so much preface that the military is not for everyone!

  22. dude we haven't fought a just war in 60 years.
    i would like to see the best patriots willing to be warriors in our country to be tasked with a more legitimate task.
    let me make this very clear, i support the troops. i don't trust the decision makers as far as i can throw them. and i cant do 4 pull ups.
    your point about teamwork is spot on.
    what i did: college, then on to an AmeriCorps program that was more selective than most colleges. low pay, but you were challenged out of your comfort zone regularly doing good work for great organizations.
    and with the internet now, you can learn almost anything on your own. practice math, it is a practice on logic. logic is important. you get in to coding or science. or if you have no soul, be a lawyer.

    yeah don't work for a machine that is designed to kill. and we don't kill for legitimate reasons anymore. our million dollar missiles create more terrorists every time their targets are wrong.

    he makes a decent case for his point. and its one side.

    ok neverming. one guy had a mountain of blow?
    disregard everything i said. go to the military. do drugs. get kicked out. leave with all of the skill he talked about.

  23. I am thinking about joing the coast guard as a MP. I used to think about airforce but I am really unsure. I want to lean all these skills and I was wondering if they have a specific branch that developes more of these skills than another?

  24. The choice is either learn proper values and ethics vs ending up in debt and relying on a degree to get a good job.

  25. what is a group project,do you mean 1 to 2 kids carry the whole lazy group who does almost nothing

  26. I am surprised about having fun part. Other than that man helpful points man I am definitely considering going man.

  27. All these points are well taken. However, the elephant in the room is WAR! Our government is constantly sending our troops away on ill-conceived military adventures, usually to the armpits of the world, like Afghanistan. None of the mentioned benefits of the military mean much if you are dead or crippled.

  28. I want to know if there is still benefit in going to collage because I haven't thought of it until I realized that the military could help. If there is hands on learning in the military then I wonder if it's still worth going to collage since I never thought collage would be that useful for me. Where do in learn more in your opinion?

  29. College is worthless for example a degree in electrical engineering takes about 130 credit hours. Just alone in the Navy going to A school (22 weeks 6 hours x 5 days a week was 660 hours hands on electronics work and book study. B school was 24 weeks x 6 hours x 5 days a week was 720 hours hands on advanced electronics work and book study and then C school was another 12 weeks x 6 hours x 5 days a week was another 360 hours hands on super advanced electronics work and book study.

    And to top it all off it was free and while the average college engineering graduate has only120 hours practical study and tuition debt your average military vet has over 1600 hours more technical knowledge plus hands on experience than the person with the degree doesn’t have.

  30. I wish I would've saw this video when I was younger. I'm about to be 26 with a kid on the way and my girlfriend has 2 kids already I live in the Sacramento county area and cost of living is 97k-100k a year. I get paid 15.75$ a hr for pool service and finally realizing I can't keep going on like this and hoping the military will help benefit me with getting out of this situation into a slightly better one.

  31. Hey Patrick Would you recommend a valuable business degrees? Are any business degrees in college worth it? Please let me know your opinion. Thank you for all you do!

  32. Guys: I am interested in joining the military. I cannot join the US army/marines because I am a Canadian citizen. What is your opinion about the Canadian Armed Forces? Which unit should I consider? Thanks.

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