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6.5 Creedmoor Ammunition Testing for the 1 Mile Rifle! – Savage 12FV Mile Rifle Pt 12

6.5 Creedmoor Ammunition Testing for the 1 Mile Rifle! – Savage 12FV Mile Rifle Pt 12

Howdy, guys and gals! Welcome back to
the Social Regressive where we’re continuing to work on the savage 12 FV
in 6.5 Creedmoor. In the last video we created some nice uniform brass using a
handful of tools, and now this is ready to load up, which we’re gonna do in this
video. we’re doing something a little bit different, which I’ll describe here, but
we’re using some of the components that we’ve used in the past to very good
effect. Reloder 16, for example, is a phenomenal powder as far as I can tell.
I’m getting good velocities in 6.5 Creedmoor and getting very consistent
results both in bolt actions and in semi autos, and I’ve actually been able to
test some of these at some very extreme distances. for the primers we’re going to
be using some benchrest primers to get just better results overall. they should
perform much more consistently. we want to make sure that our velocities are as
tight as possible, our groups are as tight as possible, and these BR-2 primers
from CCI should really help. Then the projectile that we’re working with today is
a little bit different than the loads that have been cooking up with in the
past mostly I’ve been working with 140 grain bt HP match projectiles but now since
we’re really kind of dedicated to some of the longer range work we’re using 147
grain eld M projectiles from Hornady they should have a ballistic coefficient
that’s a good bit higher these should really streak through the air and remain
supersonic for longer distances alright now let’s start putting together a hand
load here’s how we’re concocting our recipe you guys are no doubt familiar
with ladder loads and that’s where you start with your max charge which in this
case is gonna be 41 point 6 grains and then you load up three like that or five
if you want to be really precise about this and then you back up by a certain
interval like maybe point five grains and you do that all over again you go
down for a while then you get out to the range and you see how well these group
and you can fire these over a chronograph to be able to see not just
your velocity when you go to fire later but to be able to see just kind of how
precise those velocities are what your standard deviations are and you kind of
get this into the same sort of thing with the OCW
load this one instead of having fixed
intervals you kind of have some close intervals up near your top charge and
then as you descend it starts to kind of open up a little bit and with this one
you’re not just watching for your group size but you’re watching for its
position relative to a crosshair too so a group that groups really tightly a
little bit kind of off from the other groups it’s probably not when you want
to keep you’re looking for one that kind of fits in this sort of center point not
necessarily where you’re aiming but you’re looking at the positions of the
groups and trying to find out kind of where that center point is and both of
these do have a flaw I’ve used both of these and you start to get into some
things where okay yeah maybe you have a nice tight group and maybe you can start
to see where they start to collapse here they both use a whole lot of ammo they
use a whole lot of supplies you have to bring a whole lot out with you and then
there are plenty of times where as you’re trying to find these various
indicators they’re not necessarily going to line up so you burned a whole lot of
ammo and you found something that the the velocity standard deviations are not
actually very good and so they’re not going to be that great at long range so
what we’re going to do is something a little bit different and big thanks to
Eagle Eye I know there are a bunch of people that are working on this to try
to find some better ways to to not only get good accuracy get your barrel node
but to get excellent velocities as well make sure you go check out his channel
I’ll link to it over in the sidebar but what we’re after here is we want to
be able to line up two different things if we watch our velocities as we fire as
we you know go up through some of these higher charges we’re going to see
certain points where we reach a plateau and these are going to be the points
where we’re going to get very consistent velocities if we do
kind of wander a little bit with our our powder charge say we’re up point one of
a grain or something it’s not going to have much of an effect it’s not going to
change the velocity all that much maybe as it starts to heat up during the day
again the velocities are going to hopefully remain pretty consistent and
so this is called the Satterlee method where you’re trying to find a consistent
velocity plateau in here but this does not necessarily equate to a tiny group
size so what we need to do is figure out how we can hit both and what we’re
looking for here is something called an accuracy window the cool thing about
this Satterlee method is we only have to load up one round per per charge and it
doesn’t take very many shots to figure out where those plateaus are what we’re
going to do is we’re going to combine this we’re going to work with 0.3 grain
difference we’re gonna step up by 0.3 grains we’re gonna watch for these but
we’re also going to watch for the position on our target as we fire and
this should be shot at a longer distance today I only have access to 200 yards
normally I would probably want to fire this at 300 yards but 200 yards we
should still be able to see a decent indication of what’s going on we’re
looking for something called an accuracy window and that’s going to be where
these shots are starting to kind of cluster together as they work their way
up so this right here where these are all kind of tightly packed together this
is going to be the accuracy window now here’s where things get tricky we’re
going to spend about 16 shots I think working this up so we’re gonna be
testing this at the exact same time that we’re testing this and hopefully these
two will align but here’s the deal they might not if they don’t we are going to
alter things just a little bit let me show you what my actual values are now
okay so here’s what I’m going to be firing today there’s my max and then I’m
gonna be stepping back by 0.3 grains I probably I’ll go all the way down into
this this is very very low 36.8 grains but it should give me enough of an
opportunity to start to see that curve and if this does not work out and the
accuracy window and the velocity plateau do not line up then what I’m going to do
is I’m going to shift my my depth that the projectile is seated so right now I’m
going to have this at two point eight to zero inches that’s the max length that I
can have in my magazines and then I’m going to step things back just a little
bit if this doesn’t work out so I’ll have two point eight one zero and then
we’ll have two point eight zero zero and here’s a word of caution because I’ve
messed with this before as you start to push this projectile back in there of course
the the pressures are going to start ramping up and you need to make sure
that you have adjusted for that you need to start backing off the powder a little
bit according to quick load which is what I use to figure out my max load up
here of reloader 16 then yeah this is my max load right there 41.6 I don’t trust
it I think it’s gonna be a little bit too high so I’m gonna have to watch it
as I start climbing but it did indicate that I will need to back off to 41.5
grains if I get down here to two point eight zero zero this one indicated that
it’s still 41.6 this one forty one point five we’re gonna have to keep a very
close eye on this out at the range check for those high pressure signs check for
sticky bolt we’ll see what happens here’s what we’re working with federal
champion brass that we tuned up in the last video 147 grain ELD-M projectiles
from Hornady these are pretty long so these are going to have a pretty
different formula than the 140s that we’ve tried out before CCI B our two
primers these are benchrest primers that should get us the most consistent
performance we can get aside from maybe stepping down to this
small rifle primer pockets on some of the like the Starline brass or whatever
that could be a next step something to really kind of tune these in but I think
this is going to work out great we have reloader 16 for our powder which
we are running through the RCBS chargemaster light which i reviewed in
the past this is a wonderful little time-saving device it’s very precise it
runs very quickly and if you’re using one of those beam type scales yeah those
are extremely precise especially if you get like a triple beam or something like
that but if you want to be able to run a pretty darn precise load and get it done
quickly without having to actually look at it and you know watch its movements
and all that this is a really great way to go the press that we’re using is the
RCBS rock chucker supreme this is their big heavy Magnum model so this can
handle all kinds of big bag guns up through 50 BMG this is a very over built
piece of equipment and you should check out the video that I did where I showed
how I installed it and some of the neat features about this because this is a
very heavy press and it needs to be installed a pretty particular way to
keep from maybe breaking off your parts of your bench or something so yeah this
is going to work for us and then up top we have the RCBS this is part of the two
die set this is just their their projectiles eater that comes with that pretty easy
to prime using the arm on here now it’s time for our first load so I have my max
load worked up that’s 41.6 we’ll go ahead and do that one here’s what we get to figure out that
projectiles eating I have backed this stem out quite a bit okay there we go that’s
obviously not it we’re gonna come in quite a lot yeah we’re looking at three
point zero five zero we need to get down to three point eight to zero all right nailed it now we have our
projectile seating this is gonna go a lot faster
eagle-eye and others recommend that you do this kind of work at longer distance
like out at 300 yards that we have right here and here is my setup not too
elaborate so back there is the target with just one dot on it I’ll be firing
at that and then kind of measuring the spread from that dot actually measuring
the spread from one projectile to another to try to figure out that accuracy node
down here I do have a bullseye camera system from SME this thing has worked
out really well in the past this is one that is for extreme long range and we’ve
actually been out at a mile using just this antenna and not the base station
that can get your extra distance we were connecting just fine with our phones
with that this sucker is powerful so this is setup you’ll be able to see the
screen here in a sec and then back here got a little GoPro to help me out just
in case I missed something because the order of the shots is going to be very
important I need to be able to see which shot hit first so some people have been
marking these with with colored markers so that it leaves behind a little smudge
and you can see which one was which in my case I should be able to see which
shot came in when here’s a rundown of the test equipment we’re using today up
front I have the champion bipod this is one of their simpler ones like the
Blackhawk they have some that kind of pivot and Traverse and do all that so
you can really quickly kind of change your angle but I wanted something more
solid for this rifle since I intend to be fire
it you know longer distances smaller targets this one’s gonna work out really
well the only adjustable parts on this are the leg extensions and the fact that
they fold up forward just perfect right up here we have the Nikon FX 1004
216 by 50 millimeter scope I’ve been testing this out for a little bit and I
love it the glass is excellent features are great and it has a little bit of a
simpler reticle than you’re gonna get with some of the others so if you’re one
of the guys that wants to just get to a mil Hache reticle and you don’t want all
kinds of Christmas tree stuff going on in there you want to be able to dial and
you know kind of leave a big fat reticle alone this one is a really good match
for you it’s an illuminated reticle as well so a little bit simpler in some
ways but some other great feature sets as well for your hearing protection I
just recently reviewed these these are the champion vanquish hearing protectors
go check that out because these are pretty darn sweet and back here we have
a protector rear bag this is one of their simpler ones and I’ll put links to
a whole bunch of the equipment that you see here in down in the description
below so you can go straight to that and check it out and then for a coronagraph
this is the Chrony beta model this is the their master model that has
the extension right here so you can read this out and I’ve gotten good results
from it before so I’m expecting some some good readouts today let’s get to it the cardboard down there doesn’t have
much contrast with the holes so the bullseye cam is kind of showing me
diddly-squat as far as placement I’d love to
be able to see which shot is which but it won’t give it to me
but I can at least see the target through this just like if I were using a
spotting scope or something and I can see where they’re clustering I’ll just
have to go back through that GoPro footage and see which ones came first
which ones were in what order let me see if I can focus on this that
is my highest pressure right there that’s max load that I figured out in
quick load and you can see that I still have plenty of radius on the corners
there so not scary at all and this is coming out with those 147 grain projectiles
over 2,700 feet per second that was 27 75 at the high end now let’s go see what
is precise and I picked this up a little bit so you can see a little better but
there is the extreme cluster at 300 yards so there’s my hand basically these
can all fit within the span of my hand that’s a good start at 300 yards and
we’ll go back and see which of these came in where now the wind was blowing
it was kind of changing directions I did not account for wind I’m really just
looking for verticals here so I didn’t try to adjust for it and that’s why
we’re getting some of the spread here at least that’s some of it I think it could
be a little bit of the the barrel whip here we go two point eight one zero and
two point eight zero zero over here and these are following a very similar
cluster pattern to what we had going on over here now you can see that these are
kind of angling as they go and this is something I’ve run into it seems to be
particularly Errol’s that as pressures change or as weights change they
can kind of drift a little bit left and right we’ll see how that comes out when
we actually review the footage looking good the results are in but they’re
going to need a little bit of interpretation so we’re going to go
through this I had to go back to my little downrange camera to be able to
see which shot hit first on here to differentiate some of these let me show
you what we ended up with alright so down here the the number of the shots
doesn’t necessarily correlate to where it is on here so here we have shot one
but then I adjusted up quite a bit one point excuse me a point for milliradians
to kind of bring it up a little closer to the dot
so there’s shot number two and I’m considering these kind of throw away but
yeah there’s two three four five six okay so all this is looking like a
pretty big group nothing that I would be particularly interested in this is quite
open then we start pulling things up a little because there’s seven eight nine
or like how those are coming out and again remember this is three hundred
yards not one hundred so these are actually quite close together seven
eight nine ten all of those are clustering together really well eleven
drops down a bit and then suddenly we jump up to twelve thirteen fourteen
fifteen sixteen seventeen so these are all pretty darn tight right up in here
everything leading up to that last shot is is actually pretty good at least on
the vertical we can see that we do have some horizontal stringing it might be
due to some of the wind that was out there there wasn’t much but yeah you can
see that things are kind of breaking apart here down here this is pretty
tight so if this does align with one of our velocity plateaus and this might be
some good stuff so here is my my data from the coronagraph and here we are
that that last target that we looked at was two point eight two zero inches and
yes actually here are some of the plateaus that we’re dealing with right
there in seven eight nine so I think that number eight group in here or that
that charge thirty eight point nine grains of reloader sixteen I think
that’s going to be an excellent one because everything is it’s tight on the
the target and it’s tight on velocities so yeah that one’s definitely going to
be one to check out another one to check out is going to be that number seventeen
right up at the top it seems like okay we don’t really have a velocity plateau
going on up there but the verticals as far as the the
shots went we’re getting quite tight so I’m thinking since we
weren’t getting overpressure that we’re gonna try out that 41.6 which was our
very last shot or kind of max charge but I’m actually gonna take things up an
extra point one grain we’re gonna go with 41.7 and we’re gonna try firing
some of those at a closer distance for a group to see how they perform or we’re
gonna try out this one as well that this one that comes in at about 2606
feet per second and that one’s also looking excellent but then for the other
overall lengths that we had let’s see what some of those are alright so this
is two point eight one zero going on down here so shot one two three then
suddenly jumps up to four down to five and then let’s see where six there’s six
dropping down almost to that first shot so these are just kind of all over the
place here to begin with then we have seven eight drops down a
bit nine that’s not too bad but it’s really not anything to write home about
drops down to ten and you can see that pretty often this is happening when I
get to some of these you know where I’m starting to to add extra powder and
we’re getting toward the end of one of these velocity plateaus that sometimes
velocities are lower and sometimes those points of impact are actually quite a
bit lower as well there’s 11 jump up to 12 13 14 okay now
this is more or after the verticals on this are excellent so these are going to
be worth noting jumping up a bit to 15 and 16 and then popping up suddenly to
17 so let’s see if 12 13 14 if those aligned with one of the
plateaus and here we go yes shot 15 we were starting to get into a plateau
right up here so we have kind of 14 15 16 up in there and that’s 41 grains of
powder that’s actually moving out pretty good to 2747 feet per second so that’s
looking like it’s pretty solid so how about 2.8 0 0 which was our shortest
over here we go there is one two and then
three four five and I mentioned that I pulled this one so that horizontal is
probably just a polled shot that I did but the verticals are looking really
good right there so this is one to take note of jumping
up to six seven eight nine so the verticals they are pretty good ten
eleven twelve eleven and twelve are really tight right there thirteen up to
fourteen and past that I was getting into some sticky bolt I was definitely
getting overpressure and I wanted to leave that well alone
one of the reasons why on the two-point eight to zero why I might actually go
with that lower powder charge rather than the high one and we’ll actually
we’ll test this out later is that we do have here in Oklahoma we have a wide
range of temperatures it’s not very temperate around here so we’ll you know
we’ll get down and you know well below freezing of course and then during the
summer we’ll get up past a hundred degrees and in those conditions I might
not want to be you know maybe launching my max charge or whatever and definitely
with these yeah I don’t want to get even at these kind of decent temperatures
that we’ve had lately I don’t want to get past that 14th shot so this one
probably not gonna work out that way well let’s let’s take a look over all
velocities were actually really consistent going up here I didn’t really
note any significant plateaus there’s one a little bit at about shot 10 and 11
but it looks like the ones that I found most noteworthy were shots four and five
which came in only at about 2500 feet per second that’s going out pretty slow
and those are where things were kind of clustering up down there I think overall
I’m just going to avoid two point eight zero zero too much pressure I’m not
gonna get any significant you know speeds or anything this is not going to
be a very good one overall I think I’ll just leave this alone but I’m gonna try
some of these others so yeah what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna cook up some of
those hand loads get back out and see what the target looks like my first attempt to fire for groups was
a failure I backed up to 300 yards and I had everything pretty well squared away
except that I left my solid bipod at home and I had to borrow somebody else’s
that was just a little bit too floppy it had one of those canting heads on it and
the rifle just did not feel solid you can see the results in the the groups
that I printed here the 2.8 to 0 group it looks decent at 300 yards but really
we can do a lot better I wasn’t very pleased with how this grouped up and I
think it’s just all down to the bipod the next one at 2.8 to 0 again but this
one was a 38.9 charge this one doesn’t look too pretty and then things really
opened up for the 2.8 1 0 so I need to go back and do it again that’s exactly
what I did I brought everything into 100 yards instead of 300 shotover a
coronagraph and measured my groups and all that and
I did throw in a couple of extras on here ok so we have the 41.6 grains that
I shot right here and this one came out to be ok my average velocity 2793 that’s
moving out quite fast this is a 147 grain projectile and it’s coming out of the
the muzzle of this gun actually quite a bit faster than the 140 s and some of
the other 24-inch guns that I’ve used standard deviation of velocity is twelve
point four four so that’s pretty good and you can see the group isn’t exactly
horrible I mean it’s almost an inch but on the vertical spread we’re looking at
0.35 0 inches so that’s actually pretty tight on the vertical which is what most
people look for the wind was actually switching back and forth as I shot this
I don’t think that really accounts for all the spread that’s going on here yes
the wind was moving back and forth but it was maxing out at probably about 5 6
miles an hour somewhere in there so yeah I don’t think that really adds up to all
of that but I did have a thought when I had viewed the velocity plateaus and all
that that I was looking at something quite good just a
of that max pressure or that max load at 41.6 and I nudged it up a little bit to
41.7 and I was quite right there’s a nice plateau sitting right up above that
and so this is best group of the day this is the one that I’m definitely
going to be sticking with so this is that two point eight to zero inches 41.7
grains of reloader 16 and we’re looking at a group that at its max just you know
total from one edge to edge 0.4 four inches and then on its vertical it’s
almost exactly the same the this is actually the the best the highest
stringing here is actually vertical so 0.4 for the velocity on this is a
whopping 2,800 feet per second and the bolt it doesn’t have sticky bolts or
anything going on there’s nothing scary it is just a little bit heavier than you
know some of the others that are a little lower down but it’s still
decently finger tip II I’m not too afraid of this I might have to watch it
as temperatures get really high out later this summer I’m gonna keep an eye
on it but I think that it’s actually going to work out fine and standard
deviation of velocity we’re down in the single digits so we’re looking at less
than 8 feet per second for all of those so yeah I’m really happy with this right
here and I hope that it does continue to remain safe throughout this summer I did
fire this it was probably about 80 85 degrees somewhere in there and it’s
gonna get hotter around here we’ll see how this goes but I think I think
that’ll actually work out pretty well down in here we do have the 2.8 to 0
this is the the lower charge this had a really good horizontal string going on
but the verticals were starting to climb a little bit and my standard deviations
of velocity were still hovering around that 12:00 mark like up in here and it
is moving out at about 2,600 feet per second rather than like the 2800 up here
at the two point eight one zero where we shortened everything up overall this one
was just kind of big it was one point four three inches the vertical was 0.76
I don’t think that the gun really like this one all that much so yeah again
we’ll stick with this one and just as a throwaway I did also fire some of the
gold dots that I developed for the CMMG Mark 3 DTR2 just to see how they would
fire if I wanted to get out and do some hog hunting with those loads not
optimized for this rifle and it came out to be about one point two one so that’d
be decent enough for hogs within kind of closer distances but I’m gonna develop
loads over time with this now keep in mind that what you see here is a good
starting point we are going to do the pillar bedding and epoxy bedding next on
this rifle because I really do want to crank this in there are some things that
we can do to continue to tighten up these groups first off remember that we
are using inexpensive brass we can actually you know start to get into some
better performance if we use maybe some higher performance brass like some of
the small primer pocket stuff from Star Line we could get some Lapua or norma
brass that would definitely clean things up if we neck turn this it will also
improve its performance I think and yeah once we make the tweaks to the rifled
and I think we should be really cookin as it is right now I’m totally happy I
could take this rifle as it is right now load up that kind of hot load right
there and get out and be able to hit this mile pretty easily
we’re sub half MOA velocities are incredibly tight and we have some very
high performance projectiles that will be going through here so yeah I’m not
concerned about it but since we can take things to that next edge we will do it
thanks a bunch to patrons of the destructive arts that have made this
series possible we are continuing to work on this and we’re gonna get out to
that mile here but yeah thanks a bunch of you guys if anybody else wants to
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Reader Comments

  1. Huge thanks for the shoutout!👍 That load workup is gonna be awesome to see in action at 1 mile. Rooting for ya in anticipation! 👍🤟

  2. Reloaded 16 is the powder that I have chosen for my 6.5 CM… I have tried H4350 too unstable in my two 6.5 CM rifles and I have chosen the 130 grains bullets for my projectile.

  3. In Texas you also need to factor in billions of mosquitoes the bullet has to pass thru during long range flight that affects spin drift LOL

  4. @15:24 don't just look for flat primers for pressure signs. You have a huge dent from your ejector. That would be a pressure sign to look for. Unless that is from a previous firing.

  5. Great video and editing showing only what is pertinent to the subject. I’m actually acquiring some knowledge and understanding of this reloading game.
    Thank you for your efforts.

  6. For a bolt action, the 10% will work but I'll be working with a semi-auto and a bolt action rifles. I too have seen good results with H4350 is why I went to it. Here are the results I received from using H4350 with 130 grains Berger VLD and Peterson brass. H4350 40.8 – 2707, 41.0 – 2726, 41.2 – 2738, 41.4 – 2779, and 41.6 – 2793. When I got to round number #5, I stopped there and started shooting RL-16. Reloder 16 42.3 – 2830, 42.5 – 2827, 42.7 – 2830, 42.9 – 2865, and 43.1 – 2876. The fifth round shooting I stopped there as well. I went back out the following week and re-shot the 42.3 shot #1 2829, #2 2829, #3 2814, #4 2815, and #5 2815. The SD-7 and the ES-15. Limited amount of time for more test shooting. I also tested RL-17 and had similar results started with 41.2 – 2782, 41.4 – 2801, 41.6 – 2805, 41.8 -2808, and 41.0 – 2823. This RL-17 showed no pressure signs, so I was able to complete shooting all ten rounds with the top velocity of 2894 fps. More testing I hope real soon.

  7. In my 12FV 6.5CM, using 147 ELD-M and Reloder-16, I have a node right at 42.0 grains. Using Lapua small primer brass and CCI-450 primers, I had 2780 fps and 9 shots inside 1/2" at 100yd. Bipod, rear bag, swfa fixed 12x, and rifle in bell & carlson medalist tactical stock.

    If you want to go a little faster, I got a node at 2855 fps using 42.8gr of Reloder-17 and the same other components.

  8. Do you let the barrel cool in between shots? If so how do you do it? I usually shoot 3 to 5 shots then let the barrel cool about 10 to 15 minutes before my next group.

  9. I think you'll be really disappointed with the federal brass. I was using my 12fv, federal brass and h4350 with 140 hpbt for 5 loadings on the brass. Switched to 147 Eld-M for the 6th firing and it killed 40 out of my 100 cases. All blown primer pockets. I always load for the lower node to help with brass life but the pressure with the 147s is just too high. Best of luck

  10. I've really enjoyed watching your journey on this rifle and loads.
    I'm a fan of Savage rifles, a M10FPLE 308 in a Boyd stock is my baby. My lovely wife recently bought me a Ruger PR in 6.5 Creedmore, so now I'm scheming on setting up my bench for 6.5CM.
    I'm interested to see you have broken ranks with the H4350 trend and worked up RL16. I'll pick up a pound of each to see what she likes.
    Keep up the good work!

  11. Great job. Hey where u get the drop mag n casing. Ive same stock but top load. Thanks. God Bless ya brother. U try 47-48 of RL26 yet ?

  12. My 12 fv barrels are really fast too! My tikka load has 2.2 more grains of h4350 and is still 100 FPS slower than my 12fv load. Both with 140 eld m and fed 210 m.

  13. I’m a new reloader. Well, almost. I have 4 SS presses, 2 Progressive Presses and everything else in my new room except powder and primers.
    That said. My Ruger American 6.5CM in a MDT Chassis, shoots Winchester Deer season xp 125gr under 1” at 200yds. I think it might have potential for long range accuracy, however, I believe 125 gr will be too light to stretch out to 1000,1500 etc.
    My question is, where would you recommend starting my ladder load testing for much longer distances if it shoots so well with this lighter factory ammo?

  14. At One stock vs Pro Varminter, Which do you prefer? BTW your videos, incredibly informative with concise explanations. Knowledge, without the pain. 👍 Thank you.

  15. a simple tool called bullet comparator makes all the difference when seating bullets, taking measurements at the tip is not always precise and can vary a lot, just saying.

  16. Reloading. Even with factory purchased ammo, can have it's, highs and lows. Last year I purchased a plastic container of Hornady's 200 rounds of a 140 grains OTM bullet. I'm shooting this stuff in an AR-10 6.5 CM when the temperature is below 65. My AR would not operate with this ammo. This year range session with the same ammo, well, I am shooting it and I get two blown primers; 63. Thirty years of reloading but when you step into the world of PRECISION reloading, things will change. Also, I brought several boxes of Hornady's factory ammo and they all did the same thing, would not operate my AR-10, but boxes from three other ammo manufacturers it would run that ammo. I'm going to have FUN with all my guns putting together a load that it likes. Great videos!

  17. I am new to your channel. Good review video Sir 👍👍.Following Graham Bates, Militaryarmschannel, Mrgunsngear, Honest Outlaw, Warriorpoetsociety, Talon Sei, Garand Thump,IV8888,The Gun Collective,Vickers_Tactical,Tactical Rifleman, Kit Badger etc. God Bless and Protects you all 🙏🙏🙏

  18. Just a problem with Hornady’s factory ammunition. I purchased along with Hornady ammunition Winchester Match 140grains, Federal Premium 130 grains, Norma Match 130 grains, and Sig Sauer Elite Performance 140 grains. I picked up 2/3 boxes each all would operate the AR-10. The two best of the four ammunition is Norma Match and Sig Sauer Match low SD/ES on both the Elite on the slow side around 2550 fps the Norma 2730 fps but Norma not cheap in cost compared to Sig under $25 a box.

  19. The method that you using is a good 👍 one but for whatever reason, the area I live in Alaska I believe has a changing pressure up or down the reason that why last year testing below 65 AR-10 with Hornady ammunition wouldn't work this year it did work with two blown primers. When I built this AR-10 in CM use the only factory ammunition reloads for range practice sessions only. I have a bolt action AR-10 just change the top pins pulling operation is all. I have watched your video and will watch it again to pick up anything I can.

  20. Great info.
    Since your throat is long what is your optimum COAL, would you have to single load for that length? The AICS model 726 has a max COAL of 2.98", how does that compare to the factory mag?

  21. First off, thank you for all the work that you are doing! Time-consuming. Encouraging video try a little more, so the Reloder 16 will see a change in cases from Starline to Peterson brass. Starting load 42.3, 42.5, and 42.7. The last time with Starline brass when I had loaded @ 42.5 velocity shot #11 2840, 2816, 2832, 2711, and 2814. Not stable…42.7 the same unstable velocity @ 2833, 2842, 2814, and 2849, I’d stopped. More testing to come.

  22. I haven't found CCI bench primers any better than regular CCI psi ers as far as accuracy and standard deviation.

  23. I'm a big fan of Eagle Eye Shooting too. Cool Dude. I just bought a precision digital balance and plan to use that to weight by volume sort my brass (see Eagle Eye video) and see if I can in fact chop my consistently sub 1/2 MOA groups with that 147 ELDM down some. That rifle is a Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 C. I bought a Savage model 12 FV from Cabela's on sale earlier this summer and have yet to put a round through it. However…..I have glass bedded everything including the scope rings LOL. She's tight. I transferred a VXIIIi 4.5x14x40 CDS scope off another rifle to the Savage which will be enough for the max 547 yard range I have ready access to. Sure do appreciate your work here!

  24. BR primers just have a thicker cup for hotter loads, plus you need to use SR primer brass so you can run the loads a bit hotter and still keep ur primer pockets from gettin loose… have a great day

  25. I've been following your 6.5 Creedmoor build to the point I've built my own 6.5 patterned after yours. I like your 41.7g load, but I found one better. I'd like to send you some Target pics to show you. How do we get connected?

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